Leading Zeros

[Nicholas Jordan]

I had an interesting personal experience in the arena of discussion, the matter is still current ( open and unresolved ) involving critical central issues about which the closing observations from the bench by Magistrate Grimm in Lorraine v. Markel: "...get it right on the first try." may have relevance.

I am a Process Server. I have been trying to start a business. Some of the issues of TRCP will likely constrain me to do my job, correctly. I had several things floated and took a call from a major banking insitution about eight pm or so maybe Thursday night. The bank, my bank, could not find the account on which I had drawn them a check. Because the caller was a powerhouse who had survived the current economic tinge relatively intact, I took it upon myself to cut a replacement check as a cashier's check and made five pages of trace controls - sending it to their internal controls department.

When my branch manager gets back from surgery, I will tell her that if the bank ( here ) has any questions - they can have a regulator tell Lisa to tell me a response is needed. To which I will respond ( for conveyance to the regulator ): "You may contact ( powerhouse's ) internal controls by avenues appropriate to banking controls. I have provided them five pages of trace controls, I am not trained in banking nor the regulatory issues therefore I cannot determine if investagtory procedures are a factor in my response."

The basis of "cannot locate the account" hinges on who exactly I talk to. It has nothing to do with computer science, having been obvious to untrained persons in the early '70's at trade school level of depth. Further, massive firms who do billing on six month cycle can hold the firm who does billing on the first and fifteenth in the hole of hundreds of thousands of dollars, telling them to be sure and leave the keys if they don't like it.

Now being a streeter by nature, I am in an intrinsic position to make humor about Leading Zeros. The persons who control this on a basis of leading zeros have to be by obvious and apparent tests in a position to refute the insturment a bunch of Leading Zeros but cannot do so as any critical rebuttal can become a basis for Civil Tort, or at least a few calls that start: "Hello, I am from Cuttham, Burnhamm and Runn ...."

Something that could kill me with wasted cellphone minutes, all over an issue appropriate for summer code camp.

[David Jordan]

Nicholas, I am having a difficult time following what you wrote. Does your topic relate to e-discovery?

[Nicholas Jordan]

Sorry, you may delete the post if you wish, seemed rather straightforward to me. Topic of forum is e-discovery, one cannot get it right the first time if there is no way to locate an item of electronic records. There is no way to locate an item of electronic records if something so simple as 00012345 as opposed to 12345 causes the loss of an electronic record. Checking is conducted for the most part on electronic records. Leading zeros are tantamount to spaces, therefore insignificant.

We cannot conduct business in such an environ where beginner level work loses valuable property, thus seemed very relevant to the topic at hand. If one were to report to a warehousing supervisor that "I cannot find the pallet because it had leading zeros on the inventory tag." that would normally be viewed in a manner normally the baliwick of law. I don't want to get to negative here so let me put it this way, when I came up - they would beat you and or fire you for that.

As such given that it is from banking institutions who normally are craft-competent in programming it is especially relevant to e-discovery that no one could get it right the first time if such obvious issues - which are beginner level work - are the basis for loss of pallet sized chunks of inventory. I know if a worker came to me and told me a pallet of tile FedEx from Germany was lost because of this, it would be pretty obvious that professional investigatory work may be awaiting later.

Please just delete the post if this is not sufficient, or edit out major chunks if that will avail efficiency.

[Nicholas Jordan]

I gave further thought to your response, if I may quote Wenbo Mao a Senior information security specialist for a major branded vendor of information systems: "... have caused a concern for the author to realize that the general danger of texbook ( approaches to information security ) is not widely known to many people who design and develop information security systems for serious real-world applications." There is wide recognition in computer science at the Doctorate level that experience is being replaced by a near total detachment from what is actually going on at a more realistic level.

What I tried to convey is that this actually happens, here and today. I would think Mr. Obama ( and his directions to Senior Charges ) would have a place for controls that work. Those cannot work if banking institutions can lose trace and control avenues because of computer science that can be learned from standard books.